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>Session 3: Charles

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>Something like a discussion

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>Felix Guattari, "Molecular Revolution" (excerpts)
>Begins with English Summary by Charles

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>Delacroix's Journals (excerpts)
>Begins with English Summary by Charles

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>Simone Forti (Excerpts)

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>Session 3, Charles

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>Session 1, All members

I was interested in the Buren text, learning how to look in relation to thought, also in regards to a process of arts education. Forti also mentions “reading movement” as understanding things, and enables her to be a good dancer.
As well the principles on actonomy, and the UN resolutions on Iraq. I feel these are present, our reality, and they have this weight on the meaning on the things that you do. This also comes into the meaning you give to the workshop, and how do I develop tools to act upon the situation.

I guess the text of simone forti and its relation to history was a mise en distance of my own situation, that I felt close to. I was dealing in part with the nature of certain perception of reality through a paradigm, for her it was movement, for me it was the construction of an image, and how do I deal with the world in which I live. I guess I was looking again at the passage “I perceived a common vision of the world,, aesthetic vision from new york and foreign policy from Washington”… and there is a section I didn’t include where she says… She understands she was getting into closed systems, something that was comfortable and stable, and she drew a parallel with destruction and rebirth of the world with the Hopi Indians. They were people who were migrating, and they wanted to get more stable, and become sedentary, comfortable, and this meant as well in their thoughts. Forti is close to what Guatarri is in text, where she tries to escape from this closed system, and this is similar to acting on your microfascisms that reflect on the macrofascisms. I don’t think she perceives her performances as commentary to Washington policy, but to the institution of dance of that era.

The issue is of the artist and his time, which is what forti allowed me to consider in my own scenario. The two other texts, Delacroix in art history and Guatarri, as to how this position has been dealt with.

I thought the Guattari text was representative of a certain artistic practice, of deconstructing and analyzing the institution, particularly in his case, from the institution he is working in and from the position he is speaking. I selected the passages as the ground for the different texts he has produced.

I chose Delacroix, “ how does the world …” The things that he paints he speaks of very little, it was hard to grasp the relation of his time through his journals. What he is fighting against is the laws of nature, the expression of the suffering of humanity simply an expression of his own interior suffering. My first interest was his paintings, I would have thought he was more directly implicated in the political events of his time. In a way I was disappointed by what I found, in the journals, in another way it was complex. If he wasn’t that politically implicated as David, in his formal practice as an artist and in his other critical perspectives on modernity, his views are very interesting. He also speaks of the train, and how this is the end of space… which brings me to consider new technology and their implications.

I am very attracted to the perspective of Simone Forti, it has a certain exciting aspect to feeling how she perceives reality: “End of summer in Sierra Nevada, in almost imperceptible manner, a giant pine tree moves in spirals around its axis.” And … “I saw a man in pajamas walk up to a tree, stop, look at it, and change the way he stood.”
“One aspect of my work consisted of creating a new domain, a relation of need to thoughts and manifestation. Creating a new house, a new structure in relation to things.”

All of them have relations to institutions, Delacroix is a municipal councilor, he was opposed by institutions because of his paintings and his compositions formed a whole versus different fragmented parts, and his use of size format to depict historical events was not heard of, usually these were for myth. He tried seven times to be accepted by the academy, so he had a problematic relation to the institution.

Guattari’s relation to institution.. “ The problem is one can not strike to a political objective without… “

Simone’s relation to the institution was in opposition to the institutionalized dance of the time - not having to be a trained dancer, the way the dance evolves.

Institution revealing -
Body in relation to institution - - molecular bodies, dance as movement, delacroix anti nature.

Three approaches I feel between.
Forti dealing with the nature of reality –
Delacroix’s work testifying of a particular political situation
Guttari is trying to change the situation from little that he can.

 

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